Songcatcher interview on Radio Adelaide, 30th August 2010

Radio Adelaide

Hi all,

For those that missed it, here is the transcript for the recent Songcatcher show on Radio Adelaide featuring yours truly. I make no apologies for spelling, grammatical errors, accuracy or bad humour. It was a long show, but a lot of fun. And a BIG thank you for my hosts, Clayton and Claire. It was a blast! And now….on with the show!

Intro

CLAIRE
Welcome to Songcatcher right here on Radio Adelaide 101.5FM and online at radio.adelaide.edu.au and this is Claire and with Clayton across the desk and we’re back 9 O’clock Monday night

CLAYTON
Howdy. Yeah, it’s lucky the sun went down today, or I might have stayed out in there and I wouldn’t have been able to make it for 9 O’clock tonight but…

CLAIRE
I think I just got a touch of sunburn.

CLAYTON
Wasn’t it beautiful. Bring on Spring!

CLAIRE
I like Winter but, yeah, bring on Spring.

CLAYTON
Indeed. Now, as part of Songcatcher later on in the show we’ve got the last segment of Music in the Blood. Michelle Smith from Rhythm Sticks, little interview series on Murat Usell from the Melbourne outfit called Unified Gekko. So, he’s born in Turkey and now an Australian based musician. That will be fun.

CLAIRE
Appeared at WOMAD as well.

CLAYTON
Indeed. This year. And of course, as is the Songcatcher tradition, we have a Songcatcher. We’ve gone out and caught one live. He was out in the street wandering around. We grabbed our net.

CLAIRE
And we said look…We’ve got you now…Hog tied.

CLAYTON
Well, we had to put some cheese out and a few jelly beans and things like that. To entice him into the studio. It’s Jamie McPherson. Welcome along Jamie.

JAMIE
Thank you there Clayton, thank you Claire. It’s a pleasure to be here.

CLAYTON
Now, you’ve ventured all the way in to the city from Strath.

JAMIE
A bit of a drive

CLAYTON
A bit of a drive? A pleasant drive I imagine?

JAMIE
I love it! Especially at night-time it’s just brilliant!

CLAYTON
And, you work out that way as well as live out that way?

JAMIE
Yes indeed. Work in Mount Barker and live in Strath, so I get a lovely 20 minute drive every day. And it’s just fantastic seeing the countryside. Just going to and from work.

CLAIRE
Ahhh. Would be beautiful.

CLAYTON
What a life aye! And tell me, Mount Barker, do they consider themselves city folk these days?

JAMIE
I think they do actually, yes. There’s still that attitude of a small town versus big town. So, it’s changing, getting bigger and hopefully not too big.

CLAIRE
I hope not.

CLAYTON
OK. But, while you’re out in the country at the moment, at Strathalbyn, it sounds like you are enjoying it out there. You’re a city boy originally from way out west?

JAMIE
Western suburbs, yes, so around Lockleys then Grange, Flinders Park, all around there. So, that’s where I was born and bred and I still love that bit of Adelaide, but definitely my heart is in Strathalbyn.

CLAYTON
Mmmmm… There’s got to be a song in that too, doesn’t there?

JAMIE
I think there could be.

ALL LAUGH

CLAYTON
Now, your first serious musical gigs I understand was a tenor drummer with the Mount Barker Caledonian Pipes and Drums?

JAMIE
Yes, indeed I did that for quite a few years. Playing with a nice big pipe band, just going around all the suburbs and country towns doing festivals and fetes, Christmas pageants as well as even did a big tattoo down at the Entertainment Centre which was just amazing. There were just bands from all over the world. From America, the Seventh Fleet Band, Chicago Emerald, all those bands. It was just absolutely amazing just playing with several hundred musicians at the same time!

CLAIRE
Ah, it would have been great meeting all those people too.

JAMIE
Oh, it was. Especially the Malaysian people were just absolutely gorgeous. So warm and friendly. We spent a lot of time with them and they just made it!

CLAYTON
OK, well there’s lot more introduction we want to do, but we’ve got a pretty tight ship tonight.

CLAIRE
Yeah, Jamie’s had a colourful life in all of his different careers.

CLAYTON
But we better get to our first track if that’s alight. Now, I’m told Claire’s organised Jamie to introduce it because it’s got a rather unusual name?

JAMIE
Yes, this name is actually a Gaidhlig name, which is Highland Gaelic. It’s called Dail Chuinnidh, which basically means “meeting place”, so that’s why I have subtitled the song Meeting Place.

CLAYTON
I never have guessed that, and I typed that out!

ALL LAUGH

CLAYTON
So, there’s a difference between Highland and Lowland Gaelic is there?

JAMIE
There is a difference, but Lowland Gaelic does not exist anymore. But, it’s easier to say Highland Gaelic as opposed to Irish Gaelic and Welsh and Breton and everything else. But technically it’s just called Gaidhlig.

CLAYTON
Here we go…Meeting Place

PLAYS DAIL CHUINNIDH (MEETING PLACE)

CLAYTON
Come on Claire, we’re going to have the Gaelic pronunciation courtesy of you now.

CLAIRE (in a Scottish accent)
Dai Chuinnidh

JAMIE
Very good!

CLAYTON
Isn’t she good!

JAMIE
She is fantastic! There’s Scottish blood in that lass!

CLAYTON
You can tell she is not one of those hopeless monolingual Australians like some of us!

JAMIE
Oh, that’s right!

ALL LAUGH

CLAIRE (in a Scottish accent again)
Yes, that was Dail Chuinnidh by Jamie McPherson.

JAMIE
Very good!

CLAYTON
Oh dear oh dear. She is getting in to it, isn’t she?

JAMIE
I love it! She’s fantastic!

CLAYTON
She must be hanging with that husband of hers too often.

JAMIE
Well, I think she should change her accent now.

CLAIRE
Just speak more like he does?

JAMIE
No, not that way.

CLAYTON
Just more like you do I think is fine with us. “With heather and honey and fine Highland peat, the waters of”…now, Claire? Lochan dory one…?

JAMIE AND CLAIRE TOGETHER
Lochan Doire Uaine

CLAYTON
Oh, there you go, see! Yeah…well…”The place where we meet, I’ll toast to your health, to your life and our love, to the Sith below to the Gods above”. And there’s quite a bit of Gaelic there, isn’t there?

CLAIRE.
Well done Clayton. You got to the Sith below. Well done!

JAMIE
He did a great job!

CLAYTON
It looks like sith and I was thinking Darth Vader is in here somewhere, but no, it’s just a different language. Now, I imagine this is dedicated to your wife?

JAMIE
Yes, indeed.

CLAYTON
And to a firstborn who um…

JAMIE
Unfortunately passed away.

Clayton
…is no longer with us?

JAMIE
Yes.

CLAYTON
Time for a cheerio call at that point I reckon. You better say hello.

JAMIE
Hello to my beautiful wife Tikarma. And, that song was Dail Chuinnidh. And that was for both Tikarma and Alexander who we love dearly even though he’s passed on.

CLAYTON
Mmmm…a song of positive affirmation that’s a bit of a turning song too for you. A metamorphoses from this wild young man who evidently isn’t with us here tonight, to a settled husband and father.

JAMIE
Yes, well that was pretty much what the song was about. I think it’s about the recklessness of youth, and I was a very reckless youth at that, and it’s just about meeting that one person that just changes your whole life and then you’re happy to grow up.

CLAYTON
In terms of your writing was it very difficult to actually find? It’s right to feel that positiveness in it. It’s not always easy to actually write a positive song. Some people actually say a songs got to be sad and they’ve got to be minors in it.

JAMIE
No.

CLAYTON
And sometimes songs with a bit of anger and angst are a bit easier to write.

JAMIE
Oh yes, but I think it all depends on your frame of mind and where you are in that moment. And where I was in that moment was that my wife was there pregnant with our son and I was daydreaming about whisky one day and those lines came through my head. So, it’s a song born of whisky and love. So, what else do you need in the world?

CLAYTON
So, does that mean that if you hadn’t found your wife, whisky would have been your wife? Your surrogate or something?

JAMIE
Oh, it was for a good many years. And we still have a thing going.

ALL LAUGH

CLAYTON
I guess that is part of the Scott is it? Is that how it works?

JAMIE
Oh yes definitely! I think so, yes. I think the drinking of whisky is a chance for someone to actually drink the land that your forefathers came from. So, every time I have a single malt, I can actually taste the water and the peat and the earth that where my ancestors came from. And I just think that is magical.

CLAIRE
And then, there are songs that have influenced you as well and artists that have influenced you. Tell us about this influence that is coming up now?

JAMIE
That would be the 80’s band Wall of Voodoo and the reason I chose that one was actually for the singer Stan Ridgway, who’s been a tremendous influence on my life with my music. Just his songwriting ability, the way he can tell a story and he’ll tell a story from finish to end and to me that is what music should be about. Songwriting is about telling stories. Some true, some not so true. He is a great man and a great musician and he’s just released a new album, and I just listen to it the other day and it sounds absolutely fantastic!

CLAYTON
Call of the West. Wall of Voodoo.

PLAY CALL OF THE WEST

CLAIRE
And we’re back with Radio Adelaide 101.5 FM. Songcatcher is the show and we’re streaming live at wwwradio.adelaide.edu.au.

CLAYTON
And a little while ago we were listening to a track Call of the West, which is from Wall of Voodoo. And the songwriter Stan Ridgway is one of the influences of our songwriting guest tonight…

CLAYTON AND CLAIRE
Jamie McPherson

CLAYTON
Who hasn’t run away yet.

JAMIE
No, I’m still here. Yes, I’m just waiting for the cheese that you said that you enticed me off of the street with.

CLAYTON
And the jelly beans.

JAMIE
And the jelly beans indeed.

CLAYTON
We’ll break out the nibbles later maybe.

CLAIRE
Oh, we better.

CLAYTON
They might be cyber nibbles though.

JAMIE
Cyber nibble. Ahhh, any nibble is a good nibble.

ALL LAUGH

CLAYTON
Now, a rather interesting thing that caught me in your bio Jamie. At the age of 17, you go out and buy yourself a guitar and harmonica.

JAMIE
And that’s pretty much all you need.

CLAYTON
Well, it’s a big challenge though. Were you making music before that time?

JAMIE
Ah, no, no. I wasn’t….

CLAYTON
So, this was before your drumming days and all that stuff too?

JAMIE
Oh yes, this is long before, so yes, I always loved music. Never studied music at all. I was never blessed with that opportunity. And, to be honest, I never thought I could, so I bought myself a guitar and harmonica and started playing.

CLAYTON
So, not one instrument and I thought I’ll nail one of them, but, two instruments as well and no doubt you thought at the time I’m going to start singing as well? So, three really!

JAMIE
Well, I wouldn’t call my voice a well-trained instrument. To me, the voice is an instrument but I consider my voice that old battered up instrument that you have in the corner of the house and you pull it out and have a play and it just suits its purpose and does what it should do.

CLAYTON
Taking three things at a time is a challenge.

JAMIE
For any man doing more than one thing at a time is a challenge!

CLAYTON
What was it that happened at 17 that said “I’ve got bucks in my pocket, I am going to buy a guitar and a harmonica and I am going to make some music”?

JAMIE
Well, I think you just nailed it on the head there. I had bucks in my pocket, so I was out there earning money the first time in my life, and for someone who absolutely loves and adores music, the first thing you are going to do is spend those bucks.

CLAYTON
Not on a CD or record player…or CD player…

JAMIE
Oh no.

CLAYTON
…your favourite bands box set?

JAMIE
No, not quite. Well, to me, there is so much great music out there and to be honest, I could send myself broke buying every CD I ever wanted. So, you know, why not be your own jukebox?

CLAIRE
What were you listening to that inspired you to go get that guitar and harmonica?

JAMIE
Back then that was mid to late 80’s, so I would’ve said Wall of Voodoo would have been one of them, and…it’s hard…there would have been Paul Kelly, a lot of Bob Dylan, a lot of Rolling Stones. A lot of the good old classics.

CLAYTON
So, one of the questions maybe, that goes with it as a supplementary that might be did you buy yourself a hat at the same time?

JAMIE
Ah, the hat. I think the hat came a couple of months later…but yes… You must always have a bonnet on your head, so…

ALL LAUGHING

CLAYTON
You have to know three chords first before you can wear a hat properly.

JAMIE
And, once I got the three chords nailed down I got my special certificate to say I am now qualified to own a hat.

CLAIRE
Oh, you’ve done well. At 17, that was quite an accomplishment.

CLAYTON
Indeed. So now we heard a little while ago that you hadn’t really studied music, and even after the purchase you didn’t. How did you start picking up how you use these things you now had?

JAMIE
Well, just a bit of time. Just messing around. Just studying what music is. There is a mathematical component to it. I was never good at maths, but when you can make beautiful music. And so yes. Having a good study and going with the vibe and where it takes you and just loving the sounds that come out.

CLAIRE
That’s brilliant!

CLAYTON
How many chords was it before you started writing your own things?

JAMIE
Well, to be honest, I was a very late bloomer in writing and it…wasn’t… I’d occasionally just grab someone elses tune and write silly lyrics to make people laugh…

CLAYTON
So, starting off with parodies and things like that?

JAMIE
Yes, exactly. But, I never seriously wrote a song until Dail Chuinnidh there, which is about 3 years ago.

CLAYTON
So, impending fatherhood was a trigger?

JAMIE
It was a great motivator indeed. And, when you had so much joy in your heart, and so much in your life, why not?

CLAYTON
We better get to another track I think about now.

CLAIRE
Let’s hear more.

CLAYTON
We have more. The next one, A Midsummer in a Southern Land. Now I guess that wasn’t written in the deep dark of winter?

JAMIE
No, definitely not. No, that was actually, literally Midsummer’s day when I wrote it.

CLAYTON
Now, Midsummers day? When you say that to an Australian, what do you mean Midsummers day?

JAMIE
Well, Midsummer in Australia, give or take a day, because the sun and Earth move around very weirdly, it’s normally around the 21st December.

CLAYTON
So, we’re talking about Solstice time?

JAMIE
Yes, indeed. Well, that is Midsummer. So, I wrote that song just basically sitting out in the patio, a lot of cuppas, and talking with my wife, that we spend a lot of time doing. Just watching all of nature in Strathalbyn go by, and I felt just inspired.

CLAYTON
You know, having spent 20 odd years in Adelaide, I’d say midsummer’s somewhere about February.

JAMIE
Well, that’s hot Summer. That’s damn hot Summer in February!

CLAYTON (LAUGHING)
It’s about middle for me. Anyway, here we go. A Midsummer in a Southern Land.

PLAY A MIDSUMMER IN A SOUTHERN LAND

CLAYTON
That was A Midsummer in a Southern Land, Jamie McPherson, from a CD that isn’t quite released just yet, which I think is going to be called Meeting Place.

JAMIE
Meeting Place indeed. So, hopefully it won’t be too far away. Looking at October sometime, so just waiting for the artwork to come in from two very talented artists. One, my wife Tikarma. She’ll be painting the back cover, and another one is Jeremy Watson, who’s in my opinion, one of this country’s greatest photographers and also a very good friend. So, looking forward to that.

CLAYTON
OK, so there are some mechanicals happening in the near future. In terms of the songwriting for that particular song, now we’ve heard it started at Midsummer, which we have decided is the traditional Midsummer…

JAMIE LAUGHING
After great debate.

CLAYTON LAUGHING
…of the solstice. That’s right. The debate continued once the song was on, I can tell you out there. Alright, so we’ve got a time. Now we’ve got a place. It was at home?

JAMIE
It’s at home, in the patio with plenty of cups of tea.

CLAYTON
Plenty of cups of tea. Is that describing a state of mind?

JAMIE
Oh well, that is pretty much my life really.

CLAYTON
Is tea a great inspiration for you?

JAMIE
Tea is…basically moves this world. You sit outside…

CLAYTON
I thought that was laxatives, anyway…

ALL LAUGH

JAMIE
Well, that’s a different type of movement. But that’s the thing, you can sit out, have a cup of tea, everything just falls into place. Life goes perfect.

CLAYTON
OK, so you’re out there on the solstice. Enjoying cups of tea with some very pleasant company I’m taking it. What was it then that says Alright, I’m going to stop what I am doing. These lovely conversations and things like that and get my guitar out and be an antisocial slob and write a song?

JAMIE
Well, I ran out of things to say to the wife. No.

ALL LAUGH

JAMIE
No, it was just sitting there and watching all these birds fly in. These lorikeets and the magpies and our lovely blackbirds and seeing a couple of lizards that day. And to me nature is just awe-inspiring. That’s why I live out in Strathalbyn. Just to be close to it and it’s just so good for the soul I think.

CLAYTON
Well, you’ve certainly caught some of that directly in the lyric. It starts out “The lorikeets on the lawn. A new day is dawn. The Sun King raises his hand. Mr Blackbird hops about. His wife so devout. It’s Midsummer in this Southern Land”.

JAMIE
That’s right. To me that’s the start of a hot day.

CLAYTON
OK. Now, in terms of musical idea, it sounds like an idea for a lyric came before anything else?

JAMIE
With that one, yes, definitely the lyric did come first. I was just so moved to write about it.

CLAYTON
So, you had a few snatches of ideas from the birds and the sun and things like that. And you did actually write verses and pen to paper…

JAMIE
Oh, that’s right.

CLAYTON
…how soon after that was it that the guitar came out and you started to work something out to it?

JAMIE
Pretty much within the hour. I think it only took me an hour to write the lyrics, or under an hour with a few cups of tea in between. And straight away, I just picked up the guitar and the music was just there in the words. So, it just came and happened and within a couple of hours, there it was. A Midsummer in a Southern Land.

CLAYTON
How true would it be for you that the music is in the words?

JAMIE
Oh, definitely. To me the music is always in the words. When you’re writing as a songwriter there is always a musical content to the lyrical content. And to me, words will write the music. And also it sometimes works the other way. The music will write the words. Occasionally I’ll just start playing something on guitar and there will just be a phrase or line just singing out to me saying “I belong to this music!” So, I think there is a real symbiotic relationship between the two.

CLAIRE
Sounds like true songcatching actually, doesn’t it?

JAMIE
Oh definitely! It’s definitely songcatching and I think that is a great term for your show because it just describes it perfectly.

CLAYTON
So, we’ve got to a point of about one hour where the guitar came out. Approximately how long did it take do you think once the guitar came out to sought of have something that said “Oh, here is a working draft that is almost presentable”?

JAMIE
Well, as I said, pretty much within two hours I had the song, vocal and guitar. And so, there it was for me and then it was just the matter of getting into the studio and writing out the arrangements for it and just taking it from there. The arrangements for me come quite easy. Once you have the basic song there, pretty much everything else just fills your head.

CLAIRE
Are you using a specific computer program for your arranging?

JAMIE
Yes, well I use my recording software which is Cakewalk’s SONAR. Basically I just sit down and bring up a few staves and just write the music there. And, have a bit of a fiddle around with all the different synthesisers and just try different things.

CLAYTON
So, to do that you’re getting a recording to a click track or something like that you got the timing right?

JAMIE
Well,I tend to record all the other instruments. basically the other instruments, all the soft synths, what they’re called before hand. So, basically I’m just sitting there with musical notation and just writing out the notation. And of course, it all fits into place.

CLAYTON
And then you’re adding the live bits and voice later on?

JAMIE
Yes, that’s right. So, once I’ve done the drums, the bass, keyboards and violins and things like that, I’ll just sit down and record the guitar through. Record the vocal and maybe add a bit of harmonica or something else to it.

CLAYTON
In terms of editing, do you go back at some point and look through the draft of the lyrics, the draft of the melody, and think hard about how they work and how long? Or how short? Or if there is enough…

JAMIE
No, I tend not too. No, to me once the song is done the song is done. Basically, it’s a creation, for better or for worse. It could be better or it could be worse. But at some point you have to let go of it. And let go and take that leap, and hopefully it will be a good song.

CLAYTON
OK. I think we better move on to another song. What do you reckon Claire?

CLAIRE
Oh, I want to hear what else Jamie has chosen that has influenced him.

CLAYTON
Would you like to introduce this one?

JAMIE
Yes, this song is by The Band. It’s called King Harvest (has surely come) and I’ve just chosen this one as I love all the musicianship of all the guys. Garth Hudson’s keyboards! Lovely, I hope you enjoy.

PLAY KING HARVEST (HAS SURELY COME)

CLAYTON AND CLAIRE TALK ABOUT RADIO ADELAIDE’S SWING NIGHT, LIVE MUSIC FEST, SUBSCRIBING AND A CHANCE TO WIN A DANISH GOOSEDOWN QUILT

CLAYTON
Now, there you go. Now, we better get back to Songcatcher I think Claire. We’ve been having a silly sort of fun and we should get back to our serious, I’m going to put on my serious voice now.

CLAIRE
I’m not going to be serious because Jamie McPherson’s here and he’s not being serious.

JAMIE
No, anything but serious. I’d just like to say those Danes really know how to make a quilt. It’s what the Vikings were famous for wasn’t it? Just going all around the world, invading countries and showing them how to quilt?

CLAIRE LAUGHING
That’s right!

CLAYTON
There you go. Nothing…I can remember pictures of the Vikings dressed up in quilts!

JAMIE
Yes, that’s right!

CLAYTON
Scare any man!

JAMIE
Oh, indeed! A big blonde man with a battle-axe and a quilt is…will get you shaking in your boots!

ALL LAUGH

CLAYTON
Now Jamie, I’m really interested to let you tell the story. Once you had written this first song which you had written when your good wife was with child. Was it something like a floodgate once it started? What happened there?

JAMIE
It was. It was very hard to stop writing. All of a sudden it was a revelation that “Hey! I can write songs”. Because I always told her for years “Oh yes, One day I’ll write a song for you”, and all of a sudden it happened. So, just thinking about love and thinking about whisky. It was great!

CLAYTON
And drinking tea.

JAMIE
And drinking tea. Drinking tea indeed.

CLAYTON
Have you ever had the habit of drinking whisky and trying to write?

JAMIE
Not while I’m writing. I’ve done a few times recording. I’ll just have a few drams of Highland malt just to loosen up the throat. A few drams later is just like it’s a bit warm in here. And all of a sudden not quite so steady on the feet and I don’t know, it was like there was an earthquake happening in the studio.

CLAYTON
Well, I know for me a glass of red wine goes down very well. But you don’t want to read what I might have written. Or, what I have tried to have done…

ALL LAUGH

JAMIE
I’d love to see what you have written after a few glasses of cab sav there.

CLAYTON
No, it’s a bit embarrassing actually. Yes, Never mind. Um, performance skills. Where did you gain performance skills to go along with this guitar, harmonica and singing?

JAMIE
Well, I suppose it was just do and you learn sort of situation. I’ve been fortunate that I’ve worked in various industries within the arts. A lot of filmmaking and sound engineering and things like that. So, I think it’s made me a lot more comfortable just being able to be behind the scenes and watching people do it. And it’s like well, “Hey, I can do that!” So yes, then it’s just getting out there and doing it. And yes, sometimes the nerves will hit you and that’s understandable. That’s all part of it.

CLAYTON
But one of the things is get out there and do it and give it a go.

JAMIE
Oh that’s right exactly! If you don’t get out and do it, then you can’t say you’ve tried.

CLAYTON
Our time is rapidly retreating so we’re going to get into the next track right now. This is the last one. You’re My Only Vice.

JAMIE
Oh yes, it’s so true.

CLAYTON
And it’s not about me listeners.

JAMIE
It was. I wrote it about you Clayton.

PLAY YOU’RE MY ONLY VICE

CLAIRE
Now you’re listening to Jamie McPherson singing You’re My Only Vice. What else have you got to tell us Jamie?

JAMIE
Well, I’ve got a gig coming up next month there on Thursday 23rd of September. Part of SCALA. It’s Peter McIver night. So, with very talented and good friend, musician Peter McIver and he’ll be playing with Chris Koto. As well as his band Sleepless. And Emmy Love will be playing on the night too. So, should be a great night!

CLAIRE
Good SCALA night!

CLAYTON
Sounds like fun. Actually, I’m on the week after that.

JAMIE
Are you?

CLAYTON
We’re going to have a special Songcatcher version of SCALA.

JAMIE
Oh brilliant! I might have to come along to that one!

CLAYTON
Should be fun.

CLAIRE
Well, I’ll be coming along. Just to have a look around there.

CLAYTON
I need a heckler.

JAMIE
You need a heckler? You’ve got a couple here.

CLAIRE
Jamie, thanks so much for coming along.

JAMIE
Ah, it’s been an absolute pleasure.

CLAYTON
Thanks indeed mate. And, safe traveling all the way back to Strathalbyn this evening. Cumming up very shortly is Suzie Hutchings and her wonderful, wonderful show Crossing Tracks. Before that we’ve got a little section of Music in the Blood by Michelle Smith featuring one of the men from Unified Gekko, who is Murat Usel. I think I can pronounce African words well.

JAMIE
I think you are doing great! There must be African in your blood there.

CLAYTON
It doesn’t make sense. I haven’t got any African in the last few hundred thousand years that I am aware of?

JAMIE
It’s all DNA.

CLAYTON
Anyway, here it is. Music in the Blood. Ciao.

END OF SHOW